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Are There Really More "Foreigners Behaving Badly" in Thailand?

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Somebody on Twitter like sent me something, I really just - the comment section, whatever you want to call it of the universe now that we all have to deal with is a real fun thing. I mean I already have to deal with it on YouTube to some extent, but frankly, if you want to know what I use Twitter for it is basically pachinko for my brain. I'm essentially over there just having a stream of consciousness - whatever I see, however I feel like reacting to it - so my Twitter is probably something of an accurate representation of maybe my collective unconscious sort of being manifest into the world. It's not the place where I do serious, like putting out information like I'm putting out over here on YouTube. It's a different animal for me. As I said, the best way I can describe it, it's like pachinko from my weird brain. I love pattern recognition and I love sort of mixing pop culture, especially movies with like current events and things. I enjoy Twitter but I'm just over there messing around. So frankly people that are over there trying to bug me with serious stuff, especially as it pertains to like what's going on here in Thailand, especially in the sort of the Immigration space, please don't bother. If you want to do that, put comments on the YouTube channel; that's not what I'm doing Twitter for. I'm just over there like I said, messing around. 

That said, a person put this up and we'll go ahead and put this on screen. They went over to Grok and then like put this up. "There are many videos on social media claiming that the number of "foreigners behaving badly" is on the rise. But is this really true, or is it just a case where people are just talking about it more now? Do a deep dive of police records or other official government sources." First Grok is not the end all be all, just like at one time Wikipedia was not the end all be all for information. Neither is the internet. I used to love that people come in and say, "I read it on the internet." Well, okay. That and a quarter, you can go buy a cup of coffee, you and the internet; I don't know what to tell you. Same deal with Grok. And meanwhile, my first question is well one, when you frame things for Grok, it's going to come out a certain way. So if the question had just been "there are many videos on social media claiming that the number of Foreigners Behaving Badly is on the rise? Is this true?" I would have been more akin to believing the underlying analysis at that point rather than having it sort of molded by, "but is this really true or is it just a case where people are just talking about it more now?“ Well now you have sort of aimed Grok in a certain direction and it's going to have an impact on what the output is. 

Next question: "Do a deep dive of police records or other official government sources." Well how many of those are there? I mean we only gets sporadic - especially in the Press - information, that's why I make the videos on it, where they give us numbers; it's not very often quite frankly. It's like road deaths. Try to find that number here in Thailand. Other than the dangerous days of International New Year and Thai New Year, they never give that data out. It's hard to find, and meanwhile there are other ways that the data can be obfuscated. Like for example if in the middle of a DUI, somebody crashes into a tree, flies out their front window and flies into the forest and dies, the Forestry Section might say that was a death in a forest, rather than a death by driving sort of thing. Again that's just one example, but there are ways, what is it, there are lies, damn lies and statistics. On top of that, I am not at all convinced that Grok is getting all of the information from Government sources or Police records because that's just not open source and Grok is not going to be like plugged in to the Royal Thai Police's Records Department on all of this stuff. So that would be the next thing I would say.

Meanwhile, this whole thing, I went through and started kind of poking Grok myself because I wanted some further clarification, which I'll get to here in a moment, but basically the way that the question was framed is, "are there more foreigners behaving badly within the foreign community?" Basically Grok’s answer to this, I'll get to it in a moment, is essentially, "well there's not a higher disproportionate number of foreigners within the foreign community that are behaving badly based on the records that it can see", which I'm not even convinced Grok is seeing the full picture, but let me read its answer. "No, Official Police and Government data do not show a clear, verified rise in “foreigners behaving badly" (crimes, arrests, or deportations involving non- Thai nationals) that outpaces what you'd expect from tourism recovery and population growth." What the hell does that mean? Quoting further: "The surge in social media videos and claims appears to be driven far more by increased visibility, smartphone recording, viral amplification, and recent high profile enforcement crackdowns than by a proportional increase in incidents." Well nobody is talking about a proportional increase; we are talking about absolute data here. And I have got to be honest with you, just anecdotally, and you go through Grok’s sort of analysis on this thing and they said, "look, in the past we had problems, foreigners," yeah, we did, but I'm here to tell you, I remember 2018, I remember 2019 and I don't remember pre-Covid having all these people, especially women a lot now - you see a lot of Farang women getting into altercations with people on the street and things, that was such a rare thing that you noticed it. And yes, Grok goes into the fact that yeah, there were newspaper reports of that kind of thing, the amplification argument I can see that there may be something to that, that in the past  something might have gotten written up in the Pattaya Mail , had been on page 3, a few people might have seen it, but otherwise people might not have heard about it. Whereas now, people get recorded, it goes viral online; it changes perception. But that said, this is more, I went and asked it this, "Yes, in absolute terms, incidents involving foreigners (as suspects or victims) generally scale with "tourists’ numbers" so the more tourists means more crime?" And then the answer was, "Yes, more tourists generally lead to more absolute incidents of crime or infractions involving foreigners (as suspects or victims) but this is a basic volume effect - not evidence of worsening behaviour per person or a "crime wave." That's not what anybody has ever said. I have never said that worsening behaviour per person that there was a per capita increase of crime within the foreign community; that's never been what I said. I said that the volume of people coming in seems to be contributing to more incidents because there's more foreigners here, so there are obviously going to be more foreigners behaving badly. I never said that the foreign community was getting worse or becoming more criminal over time. So what are we talking about? We're just having an argument over semantics, over proportional amount of uptick in crime within the foreign community versus absolute increase in crime due to the fact that there are more foreigners here. The fact of the matter is there are more incidents of foreigners behaving badly, it's not more incidents disproportional to the past in terms of the population of foreigners, it's just absolute terms. So okay, that's what we're looking at here. 

At the end of the day there's been more tourism especially since COVID, and in the aftermath of COVID, frankly I think people are all messed up having basically been on house arrest for a number of years, for nothing, and then it manifests itself in various antisocial behaviour that you see throughout the internet, throughout Thailand, and honestly throughout other parts of the world. But I stand by what I originally said, and what I have been saying, which is look, in the last two years, we've seeing more incidences of foreigners behaving badly in ways - arms caches where the Army is having to go down?  Tell me the last time that happened in the foreign community. So come on, I'm not really interested in hearing that "oh everything's just hunky dory, we just see it more now." I'm not buying it.